Circling The Drain

Unknown: I can't imagine that my
dad wouldn't have wanted to take

care of us kids, and you know,
in any way that he could. But

no, I mean, as far as I know,
none of us kids make. We're not.

We don't. We don't make any
money from his songs, from his

royalties. His, you know,
there's no money. I mean, you

know, I've I've worked my whole
life. You know, I mean, I worked

three jobs while putting myself
through college, and you know, I

mean, I've worked every day. I
was babysitting before I could

even legally get a job. You
know, I mean, I. The narrative

is that you know we're silver
spoon kids, and that we're now

reaping the benefits from Dad's
death, and that we're getting

all of this stuff. We own no
merchandise. All of his jackets,

any anything that's David Alenco
related belongs to the estate.

We're not part of the estate.
We've actually been boldly

claimed to. If you read the
will, we have been excluded from

everything.

Welcome to a podcast about music
and entertainment before it all

goes down the disposal. This is
circling the drain.

Hey, welcome back to circling
the drain. John E. Bozeman here.

Johnny B. Most people know me
by. You know that

silver-throated

yes

devil over there. That would

be Johnny Harper. Yes, yes. We
are back. We are back, and we

are so excited, man. I almost
want to forget Jim McCarthy

because I'm so excited about the
guest. But no, we we have to, of

course, mention our. I'm very
forgettable. Yes, no, you're far

from it. But no, the man who
runs the show that would be one

James Patrick McCarthy. Yes,
he's

almost like a he's almost like a
babysitter with us. He keeps us

in line.

Yes, yes. We

are excited because we have two
talented young ladies in our

midst, and they not only are
talented, but they come from you

know a legend, David Allen Coe.

Yeah,

and I'm talking about his
daughters. You have Tanya

Montana, and you are like
folklore because you have a

song, a classic song that was
written about the music video.

Yeah, this is true. The only
music

video that Dad ever did. Yeah,

except for that. Take this job
and recent one he did that,

yeah, yeah, we won't talk about
that one. Not important. Shelly,

yeah, co is here, and she she is
a great artist herself. Both of

them have, and I'm trying to
tell them both to keep playing

and singing.

Never say never. That's my
answer.

Well, yeah, you should because
I'm a huge fan of both of you.

Thank you, thank you.

And in fact, I'd have to add
Tyler in there too, because in

fact, it was funny. I saw David
play in this really small place.

Well, it wasn't small actually;
it was huge. It was in this

really strange town called
Covington, Georgia. It was

called the Ozone Bar and Grill,
and I saw David with Blackberry

Smoke, and your brother was on
there playing guitar, and I was

just blown away by him. And I
wanted to tell him after the

show how much I loved his
playing, but I could tell he was

not in a good mood, so I left
him alone. I was going to,

and he has an instrumental album
as well that he did many many

years ago, long before his
podcast,

really, I wasn't unaware of him.
Yeah, I've got to get it.

Yeah,

because I really did dig
watching him play. He was cool.

Plus, he looked like he belonged
in Lynn Skinner because his hair

was real long. Oh yeah, he
looked like Alan Collins. Yeah,

good looking kid.

Yeah,

so all

my siblings are good looking.

Yeah, the all of you, and you
are too. Yes, you

are. Thank you.

In fact, the camera loves you.
There, there. I watched what was

it? Heartworn highways, part
two, and you are in a cameo. Oh,

were you aware of that?

I'm like, wait, was I?

You were. You were really. Yeah,
they shooted it. I want to say

it's some. It may be a bar type
restaurant place, probably in

East Nashville somewhere.

Gosh, and they do. I don't know
if I've ever seen. I didn't know

that. Haven't

seen. I didn't know there was a
part two. Yeah,

there's a part two. I'm gonna

have to look that up.

Yeah,

I was in a little film called
East Nashville Tonight, and I

feel like that was being filmed
around the same time as the

Heartworn Highways Two, and I'm
like maybe I'm just kind of

mixing those up or something, or
maybe

they took that that moment and
put it in two different places.

I'll have

to look that up later.

Yeah, you'll need to because
it's a quick cameo. But man, the

camera loves you because she was
getting. I think she you were

getting served something and you
were smiling and laughing. So it

was really cool. Yeah, I mean
that, and I thought we needed

more Tanya and and Tyler because
you had Justin Towns Earl in

there, God rest his soul, and
and a lot of Bobby Bear Juniors

in it. Yeah, yeah.

I didn't know it was around, so
I need to check up. You know,

looking.

Oh yeah, it's a good good movie.
But what got what got you guys

into music? Was it your father
or? Or was it just being around?

So my mom left when I was
little, and I was raised outside

of Austin in a little town
called Dripping Springs, Texas.

And coincidentally, I was raised
with Willie Nelson's grandkids.

Well, that's where you had the
big

Dripping Springs reunion.

Yeah. So when we had our our
reunion when we graduated, it

was out at the property. But I
digress. My English teacher was

one year telling us that we
needed to write a journal, and I

just didn't really have anything
to say. So it started out with

poems, and then I started kind
of singing acapella the poems

into songs, and so I started
writing probably when I was like

nine. I didn't actually start
recording until I was much

older, but I've always sung.
That's pretty much when I was

growing up. That's how we we
didn't really watch TV. We

listened to music and we sang
and you know that kind of thing.

My mom taught me harmonies, so I
mean singing from a very young

age. I'm on an album of Dad's,
the family album. Yes, I'm on

the front cover with my mom, and
then when you open it up,

there's other pictures of me and
Carla, and just like family

moments are on it, and then on
the backside, more pictures of

family moments, but there is a
song on there called "Heavenly

Father, Holy Mother.

Yes,

and all of the co-women that
were still alive went into the

recording studio to record that.
So, if you're listening to it,

it's only like so. If you're
listening to it, you have a

right channel and a left
channel. You will hear a young

child singing. You'll hear a
little kid's voice singing, and

that's me. Yes. And then you
hear a much older voice singing,

and I want to say that was
Grandma. So you know,

technically, I've been singing
since I was three, but yeah, you

know, yeah. Well,

I remember that cover too
because they messed up. I think

the baby pictures.

They did that on. I don't know
if they do things like that on

purpose, but yes. So on the
back, not only are the birthdays

wrong, but like my name is on
Carla's picture and vice versa.

And I don't know if they do that
kind of stuff on purpose because

I'm sure Dad had to approve
things before they went to

print. But for that particular
album, we did we did notice

that. Yes.

When did you start?

Yeah, I wish I had a more
contained answer for that. I I

think I've been learning just
through going through some of

the stuff. I mean, I remember. I
think I was probably very

influenced by Dad just from I
did grow up on the road, spend a

lot of time on the road, and so
from the time I was born through

all of my formative childhood
years, you know, I watched dad

perform on stage. He'd bring you
on stage four or five. I mean,

dad toured constantly. He he
played many, probably played

four or five nights a week, you
know, most of my life, most of

my childhood. So I mean, yeah, I
was, and I was, you know,

enamored with him, and and I
would watch him, and so, and um,

he in I, you know, in all the
home videos, I'm yeah, I'm

singing. I would make up my own
little songs, you know, Dad was

really encouraging. Dad and I
had a very kind of like writing

type of relationship. When he
got a fax machine on the bus, we

would fax each other every day,
and I would always, you know,

you know, I had faxes. They're
like, "I wrote three new songs

today. Here's the titles. I
mean, I'm just a little kid.

They're just, you know, but, and
so yeah, I think I always was

writing. I was always singing. I
was just always interested in

that, but had never really
thought of pursuing it. And and

really, after my parents'
divorce and the way that life

took me, I had really gotten
away from that creative side of

myself. Really didn't think I
was a creative a creative kid in

the family at all. I just worked
and helped my mom and helped

with my younger siblings and
made good grades and did all the

things you know that I was
thought you were supposed to do.

And I didn't really focus on my
creativity or writing or

anything like that. But yeah, I
in my early 20s and I didn't

know how to play any
instruments. I hadn't been

raised to learn how to play an
instrument or anything. And but

I was dating a guy who was a
musician, and he taught me how

to play guitar. And I just
instantly started writing songs.

And I kind of remember, funny
enough, he was like, he's like,

well, you can't start writing
songs yet. And I said, well, I

just did. I just tell me what to
do. Little coke coming up there,

and so yeah, funny. So that kind
of started, and and really, it

was just therapeutic for me. I
really hadn't planned on doing

anything.

Yeah,

I you know wasn't anything I
thought about doing, and. Then I

had actually been in accounting,
and I was in working as an

accountant. And then I was not
liking it. I was very unhappy,

and I was still very young. And
I, my best friend, who I had

made in college, we actually
ended up opening a little shop

together. And through having the
shop and promoting the shop, we

had had another friend move here
who wasn't technically a

business partner, but it was
just like a little group of

girls. And she was a musician,
and she was wanting to make it

in music and wanting to play
shows. And so, what's her name?

Her name's Brienne, and we're
still best friends to this day.

And she's got a baby on the way.
I'm so excited. But my friend

Kim is my friend who I met in
college, who I started my shop

Goodbye Girls with, and Kim
just-I had only been playing

guitar for about six months and
had just started, you know,

writing songs. But she booked us
a GG Happy Hour. GG is short for

Goodbye Girls. Yeah, where we
just booked all female singer

songwriters and bands, and I was
thrown into playing once a week

at these little writers' rounds
at our GG happy hour, where we

sold clothes and performed.
That's brilliant. I really was

brilliant. I was very naive and
not really thinking, "Oh, I have

a famous dad, and I'm putting
myself out there. I just was

doing it. I was having fun with
my friends. Yes, I hope that

none of those videos ever get
released, and that anyone ever

judges. You don't want on them
to see you having

fun with your friends. Well,

I'm just worried they won't take
it that way. But that is, I

understand that.

Yeah, and so, and then things
really just as far as the

recording and stuff. I mean,
things just happened

organically. Things just really,
the expression fell into your

lap is such a kind of annoying
expression. I think sometimes,

but I truly feel like that's
what happened to me. And you

don't have

to force it. If it just
naturally occurred, everything

falls into place. That is the
universe saying at this moment

you are supposed to express
yourself musically, and the rest

of the world is supposed to hear
what you have to say. I'm

getting chills talking. No,
that's that's it. That's why it

happened so easy.

And me having the shop is part
of what led to that, and really

what got me started on that
journey, especially the

recording, because I really was
not wanting to put myself out

there. I didn't think I was
ready, and I look back, I

probably wasn't ready. I'm still
not ready to deal with all

that's out there, but I have a
shop where it's in a little

collective of shops where
there's seven other shops, and

there was another shop owner.
Her name was Molita, and she was

married to a musician named Todd
Snyder. Oh yeah, and he would

just come up and hang at the
shops during the day, and he

would always bring his guitar.
And

that's so cool. I just one day,
you know,

I mean, he would just we would
just be up there, and so when

there were no customers or
whatever, we would just all hang

outside and just pass the guitar
around and sing. And after a

couple months of doing that,
Melita one day she said, "Hey,

Todd really wants to record you,
and I was like, "What? Like, you

know? And she's like, "He thinks
you're really good. He really

likes your songs, and he wants
to record you, and he wants to

get you in a studio, and he's
going to pay for everything and

all that stuff. See, I

told you. So,

so that's how that that's how
that ended up happening.

Yeah, that's a great story too.
And I remember when you put out

Silver Bullet because I was on a
political talk show at the time,

and they people loved the
bumpers I chose. And one of the

bumpers I chose, I I used Silver
Bullet when it came out, and I

got to tell you, it was the that
one and another one by a guy

named I don't know if you're
familiar with Todd Zillow, Todd

Austin. He's this great guitar
player. Okay, I'm

not familiar. I mean, I'm I'm
the worst at being familiar, but

I know by the song or something.
That's kind

of the same. You can play a
song, and I'm like, oh, I've

heard this song a million times,
and then you're like, who sings

it? I'm like,

well, it's really funky. He's
like Jones world. He's like

Prince meets Eddie Van Halen

type.

But both you guys, I got
requests. Like they go, can you

play that bumper again? And they
would ask who it was, and I. So

I turned a lot of people on to
you. So so you need to keep it

up.

Oh, Silver Bullet was the first
full song from beginning to

finish that I really did, you
know, on my own, and

it was a great video. Very proud
of that

song.

Even while my wife thought I was
just looking at it because she

goes, "She's taking off her
clothes in it. That's why you

like it. No, I like the song. I
like the video. Now it's done.

It was

just all my home video. They
were just really DIY home

videos, you know, that my
husband took on our iPhone, and

yeah, we just you know we're
just DIYers, just creative, just

having fun, and you know.

Well, see, I think most, I think
more people need to do that,

especially these days in music,
because radio is not what it

used to be. And in a way, I'm
kind of happy because because I

argued with someone.

It was completely different last
week. Yeah. Well, the thing is,

I argued with a writer in town
when I because I put your video

up on my Facebook and said,
"Yeah, you know, man, I'm really

knocked out by you know what
she's doing. And this writer

goes, well, that's not how Billy
Sherrill taught us how to blah

blah. And I said, you got to
quit looking at it like that.

Look at Frank Zappa. That guy
wasn't radio ready, but he still

put out great music. Yeah,

Billy Sherrill would have been
very supportive of anything that

David Allen Coe's children would
have produced. Oh,

I would think so. End of

story. Yeah, because it came
from the children of Dave Allen

Coe, and he firmly believed in
everything that Dad did.

Yeah,

what direction Dad wanted to do,
the type of music. Like you

know, sometimes it sounds like
he's on an island, you know,

with a with a drink with an
umbrella in his hand. Sometimes

it sounds like you know he's
rock and roll. I mean, his style

wasn't just one style. No, it
varies. And well, even the

covers

were different.

And Billy pivoted and moved with
him. He didn't try to steer him

back to the road. He's like,
"Oh, you want to go over here?

Yeah, sure. Let's go over here.
Let's explore. He would have

embraced the creativity, and he
would have encouraged to be

different. You don't. They
already have a David Allen Co.

They don't need another David
Allen Co. formula. Like be

unique, be different.

Well, and I get it. And I mean,
they're not wrong for saying if

it wasn't radio, it wasn't radio
friendly. And that, and I didn't

know any better. That's I didn't
know about the songwriting

structures. I didn't know the
rules. I just it just really

just came out of me. But see,

I like that. I see. I like I I
told you earlier when I first

heard Silver Bullet, I thought
the way the song sounds and

everything about it reminds me
of like John Lennon's Plastic

Ono band. I love that because I
love that album. I love that

you're saying that too, because
my husband's like the biggest

Beatles fan. So when he hears
this back and hears that

comparison, I'm I'm gonna get
some points at home. Well, in

fact,

I would say that that that's
what I like about your music is

that it's a lot like when John
Lennon was really introspective

because you your other one,
which I thought would hide your

emotions, yeah. You had a song
on there, and you know I don't

want to, I don't want to upset
you know my you know the

Christian part of my family, but
but it was a song called All

Effed Up, and I could really
identify with it. I mean,

that one seemed to really end up
connecting with that song out of

all the songs in the albums.
You'd end up connecting with the

most people. I was kind of
surprised by that. I just didn't

put it on there because yeah, I
was like, my grandma's never

going to forgive me.

But it's brave, and and like I
said, if you come from a because

my family was very
dysfunctional, and if you come

from a dysfunctional type
family. I think you can really,

yeah,

you know, you can really
identify with it. And I really

identified with one you had
called what was it? All, gosh,

now I'm blanking out on it. I
need my name. Yes, I love that

song.

Thank you very

much.

I wrote that song a long time
ago, before before relationships

became what they are.

Yeah,

and I did it out of love for my
dad.

Yeah,

and I'm just like, this is the
outside looking in, and I just I

care about you. I love you, and
you need to know this.

Yeah,

but it ended up being that a lot
of people resonated with it, not

just famous people. Oh yeah, but
you know, a lot of people

resonated with it. And then the
music video, humorously enough,

is done at a furniture store
after it's closed for the day. I

had some friends that did a
consignment shop in Austin, and

so when she was closed for the
day, she let me come in and and

have the pick of the whole
store. And so that beautiful

purple throne that I was sitting
on, I really wanted to take

home, but that's that's the
music videos there, and it was

just the simplest thing to do. I
brought 15 changes of clothes,

and we did. We took 15 different
takes of that, and then they

ended up with the final product.
And then the person who did

that, Stevie Tombstone, who is
an artist himself and a damn

good singer songwriter, he was
the one who spliced and diced,

and he put raw footage from his
touring days in with the video,

and he was the one who produced
the video and released the

video, and I'm just so I'm so
happy that he had that skill set

because I can sing. I don't know
how to record. I don't know how

to make a video. I mean, I'm at
the mercy of other people's

talents when it comes to that.
So I was just so grateful that

Stevie. I mean, Stevie and I
have been friends for a long.

Time and I will go and sing with
him on stage live, or I'll

record stuff with him. And you
know, if if he's doing a show,

we may split the the night, and
he's playing guitar and singing

with me on my songs, or we're
trading back and forth, and it's

just a very loose but organic
friendship. And so when he

offered to do that for me, I was
like, yeah, I thank you, thank

you for doing that for me
because that's the only music

video I have. I don't have any
other. I have music, lots of

music. Yes, you do. But that's
the only music video that I

have. So yeah,

Tanya, you say that when you got
a little bit older in your your

parents' divorce, that you kind
of stepped away, I guess, from

the whole music scene thing, and
grew up "quote unquote" normal.

But with the last name Co. did
did people ask you, or did they

assume that you know? Are you
related to David Allen, or are

you a singer? I mean, did you
grow up with with that having to

answer that question from
people,

well, and so to start off, I
mean, you know, I didn't

necessarily choose to step away.
I think you know, once my

parents separated, it's just I
would still go on the road with

my dad in the summers, which was
most of the time I saw him,

anyways. Unless you know, that
was pretty common just to go on

the road in the summer. So he
was still in my life to some

extent. But in middle school, I
mean, all through elementary

school, middle school, it never
came up. You know, you're just

too young. In high school, it
really didn't come up much. No,

I mean, I don't, I don't know if
people just didn't really put

two and two together at the
time.

I didn't. I mean, I just, I
didn't talk about it a lot, and

it was, I wasn't super popular
or anything, so it just wasn't

something that was I wasn't
really put in a position to talk

about it much. No.

Yeah. Now you know both of you.
I mean, little kids out on the

road. We've had Mickey Hayes as
a guest here. You know, your

dad's bass player for many many
years, off and on. I mean, how

did the band members treat the
little kids running around? I

mean, I know that you know
they're the boss's kids, but

still, I mean, what kind of
relationship do you have with

you know with the the other the
other members? I

mean, I feel like I owe those
people so much for for looking

out for me, for taking care of
me. They still, so many people

who worked for my dad,
especially during the time when

we were little. I mean, they're
still in my life to this day.

You know, they they really
cared, and yeah, I mean, it was

their job as the boss's kids,
whatever. But I mean, I always

just feel like my dad was so
fortunate to have a lot of

really good people work for him,
and that cared about him, and

they cared about the whole
aspect of everything, and they

cared about us kids. Yeah, and I
feel fortunate.

Yeah, well, that's that's good
to know. Like it's kind of like

the whole Willie Nelson and
family thing. Oh

yeah,

you know, the road with the
whole bunch, man. Yeah, I mean,

sometimes

there were funny. You know, I
mean, I remember once I was

about 11. I remember Dad. It was
just Tyler and I on the road

with him that summer, and I was
in a little bit. And he's like,

"If you're going to be out here,
he's like, you're going to have

have to, you know, be okay with
you know the guys that they're

going to be cussing and stuff.
He was trying to prepare me like

it's a little rough out here,
you know. You're in a, and I

was. I'm an 11 year old girl
just surrounded by nothing but

men, you know, and just me and
out there with my brother, and

so I mean, yeah. I mean, it was
it was rough, and it was it was

interesting because I mean, you
know, I think my my mom sent us

to these small private Christian
schools that were kind of like

Christian, were like a church
school combined that had like

chapel every day and stuff, and
all my close girlfriends and

friends growing up came from
very religious church-going

families, and so it's like I had
like the very extreme Christian

Christ-like church side, and
then I'd go on the road with

dad, and it was like, yeah, one
end of the spectrum. Yes, yes,

but every you know, and and
yeah, there's and Bob Bishop and

Bruce Layton and definitely. I
love Bob

Bishop. He was the scariest
looking man. He looked like

Charles Manson. He did look
like. I mean, when I first met

him, I was like, "I'm sorry,
what is going on? And you know,

when I was on the road with Dad,
I stuck out like a sore thumb

because I don't look like a
biker chick. I'm like, you know,

I'm very preppy and I'm very
girly, and so we would go

somewhere, and I'm like, I want
to walk around, and he's like,

not without Bobby, and I'm like,
okay, so I'd walk around with

Bobby, you know, but yeah, the
they they were fiercely

protective of us. They they kind
of like let us be us, but if

somebody started to like get in,
like if we didn't know, but

somebody was starting to move
into our space and it was gonna

become something, right? Now
suddenly, you know, one of the

bishop boys is coming up saying,
"Hey, man, your dad wants you to

go do blah blah blah. Okay,
cool, and then we would leave,

not realizing that they probably
just saved us from something

crazy. Right. So they allowed us
to be ourselves, but they also

protected

us. Yeah. Well, and two, did you
have? Because one thing that

concerned me about is I love
David's music. I loved your

dad's music, but sometimes the
fans were a little well,

especially the ones that took
the X-rated album seriously.

Yeah. Yeah.

Because I understood what he was
trying. He it it his X-rated

albums reminded me of Red Fox's
old party albums. Yeah, I mean

it's the Mel Brooks of

of music. Yeah, I mean they're
space balls and blazing saddles

of music. Yeah, that's exactly.

But some of them are like they
took it literally, and you know,

some of them were very racist
people. Yeah, I mean,

I think I don't know if you guys
ever

ran into that or not. Of course,

yeah, of course we ran into
that.

Yeah,

but when Dad was alive, he would
just simply explain to them that

that was that moment, and he's a
family man, and he's got his

young children on the road with
him, and he's got his older

children on the road with him
and his wife, and he doesn't

sing those songs live. And and
and you know, over there at the

merch table is are those albums?
If you want to buy them, I'll

sign them. Whatever. Right. But
but this show is a family show.

Right. You know. Yeah, I'm gonna
cuss, whatever. But I'm not. I'm

not gonna sing those things
live. There was a time when he

tried to get almost kind of get
away from it if he could, and

unfortunately, you you can't
once you once you've released

something into into the
universe, it's there. But he was

very mindful.

I think that's the tough part
too. Is like I've had you know

people wonder if we were raised
with that

racist belief, hate

that that spirit, that energy,
and and it was. I mean, it was

something that I really. I've
first of all, I've never

listened to the X-rated albums
on purpose. I know what they

entail. I have had the internet,
you know. But you know, I mean,

yeah. I think I at least was a
product of my dad's family man

era, and I was mortified. I
mean, to be honest, like I, I

had, I had never known of my dad
being racist. He had black band

members. My best friend, my best
childhood friend growing up, was

a black girl. You know, her mom
had died of cancer when she was

in third grade. I grew up
spending the night at their

houses, going to the black
church on Sundays. That was a

huge part of my musical
influence as well. Like I love

black arts, I love black
culture, I love black music.

Well, see, like your dad did
too. He

did. He did. I mean, when

somebody writes a line like
"I've got black blood in my soul

and black blood-you can't
control. That's not a racist

man. It's

hard to so yeah to have all of a
sudden your dad's like the

poster boy for racism. It's like
what? Like I and you don't want

to have anything to do with it.
And and I was as it's it's um

it's it's tragic. It's
mortifying. I'm not saying it's

okay. I wish she would have
never done those songs. And if

there are people that are using
that to

spin their own narrative

or or to perpetuate racism or
hate, that may that's very

that's the children of Dave

Allenco are not racist. No.
Okay. Can we just go on record

and say that we are not racist
people? We were raised. I mean,

actually, I I fully support love
is love. You should be able to

love who you want, and you know,
I'm teaching my children the

same. We're not racist people,
you know. And yes, he has those

albums out there. I personally
have never heard them. Somebody

asked me why. I said because
he's my dad.

Well, yeah. You

know, and I don't see him in
that way. You don't see your

father in that way. So I have no
interest in seeing or listening

to those albums. Right. I just
don't.

Well, see, I have. I and I sound
like I'm trying to

stir the pot.

Well, no. I was going to say. I
was

going to say. I told you we
weren't going to talk about

this, right? We have a list. I'm
sorry. No, no,

I. But I always felt like I was,
you know, I guess people will

say, "Well, you sound like
you're apologizing. I said, "No,

I'm not. You're not getting it.
Everything this guy's done in

country music, even like you're
never even called me by my name.

That's great song, but it's a
parody of country music. It's

talking about you know all the
subject matter in country music,

and he's having fun with

it.

I actually did a little thing in
my song "Truly" that was written

by Billy D, who is also another
great singer-songwriter. You

know the talking part of Dad's
song. I actually put that in

Billy Dee's song, truly, when I
recorded it, and then I slid it

over to him, and I didn't tell
him I was doing it, and he was

just like, "Oh my gosh, now from
ever from this point on, I'm

gonna have to do it this way
when I perform it live. He was

just tickled pink, so like the
legacy can continue with these

songs. Like Dad starts it, and
then one of us can pick it up.

And carry it forward.

Yeah. Now, see, when you you you
really touched me, Tanya, when

you recently you shared some of
the facts that you and your dad

had between each other while he
was on the road. Oh man,

I was crying,

and I and I loved it because it
showed a side of him that I

never got to see.

Yeah, was the dad, the loving
father? A lot of people didn't

get to see, and I feel fortunate
to have those memories.

Yeah. Well, hang on to those.
That's what you. And I got to

tell you guys, all of you kids
have handled his death in a very

classy way because you know you
had been estranged for quite a

while,

not by our choice.

No, you, you guys. It was

not our choice.

No, and that, and that's
something I'd like to clear up

too, because he had put out a
note saying everybody abandoned

him.

That wasn't the truth.

And I never. Well, even when I
saw the note, I said I don't buy

this. Yeah, because the kids
have always. I mean, I can tell

from how Tyler included how all
of you guys seem to really look

at a very heartbreaking

situation. We we did and we do,
you know. And I don't think

kids. It's just yeah. It's it's
hard to have. It's hard to not

only have to deal with the
heartbreaking reality, but then

to have so many people believe a
narrative that's not true. That

you know that we, you know,
turned our back on our father or

abandoned our father. We only
wanted for his money. I mean,

the crazy stuff that people have
said online,

and we're like,

it's just, it just

no, yeah.

I mean, one, and it's just you
think, how much can a kid take?

Yeah,

exactly. And plus, you got to
keep in mind too, keyboard

warriors. Yeah, they're not the
bravest people in the world.

They'll they'll act real brave
behind a keyboard, but but

there's

people spinning. There's people
spinning the that are creating

the misunderstanding in them,
you know. And and I was I was

yeah much younger when that
stuff started you know

happening, and I never stopped
trying to reach my dad, and you

know, even though he, you know,
yeah, maybe I don't know if he

really. It's it's hard to know
what happened. There's a lot of

confusion,

right? We

actually have text messages that
we've all that people have kept,

where they've continue. It shows
the timestamp of reaching out,

trying to get in touch with him,
trying to get a response, we

never gave up hope that we would
be able to reconnect with him.

You know, that's the part that
also hurts a lot. Is that it was

a we don't even know if Dad got
to see those messages because

somebody could have had his
phone and could have been

controlling the narrative of
what he was allowed to know was

coming in, but we never gave up.
Like, I mean, we were talking

about that last night at dinner,
and people were pulling their

phones out, and they were like,
"I've got this date. What do you

got? You know, so we were trying
to figure out when was the last

time we actually stopped trying.
Even if

you stopped trying, I mean,
never really give up hope,

right? We always thought that
you know, even if you got to a

point where you thought it's
useless to keep trying to keep

sending this into the black
hole, you know, of the abyss of

no response and rejection, you
know that feeling of. But I

think that's what when when he
did actually pass, and you know,

it's like okay, you see the
news, it's real, and I just

thought that's why I made a
public post. I just said I I

want to be able to go to his
funeral. You know I want that

closure. I deserve that.

You sure do, man. In the video,
I guess your husband shot it.

Tell him thank you for sharing
that with us because

he was the real MVP that
weekend. That's for sure. Yeah,

you know we went. To be honest,
we went the first day because it

was a public viewing. We knew
that we wouldn't be turned away

at a public viewing. Right. So
we went thinking we're only

going to get this two hours, and
we sat in our chairs and we just

sat there and we were like,
we're going to stay here for the

full two hours. We're not
leaving until they kick us out.

Right. And we went

scared. We went scared. We went
not knowing the whole

idea.

Yeah, and

then we sat there for the two
hours. We're walking out, and

somebody comes out from a
another room and says, "You guys

have been invited to come back
to the next thing. So we go

home, we change our clothes, we
touch up our makeup. We're like,

"Okay, we're going to go back
for the next thing. And we went

back to the next thing, not
knowing if we would get to go to

the next thing. So they just
kind of breadcrumb fed us what

we were going to get to be
allowed to do next, and we just

came away. We just, as a group,
we decided every single thing

that they allow us to be at, we
are going to be at, and we're

not leaving until they ask us to
leave. And I'm so

proud of Shelly because I mean,
you know, we didn't know if we

would get an opportunity. You
know, at some funerals, there's

a moment where people come up
and share a story or speak. We

didn't know if anything like
that was going to happen, and

they did open the floor for that
to happen. And Shelly on the

spot because we didn't know. I
mean, I find

that hard to believe. Come on,
now

we were all sitting at the table
in the back. We. Just finished

eating, and everyone was like,
"So, what are we going to do?

Are we going to go up as a
collective unit and tell one

story, or are we all going to
get up as individual children

and tell our narrative? And some
of us were more comfortable

talking, and some of us were
afraid that they might not be

able to talk because the
emotions would take over. And I

just said, I'll do it. What do
y'all want me to say? I'll do

it. And then I got up there and
said way more than I thought I

was going to say. But luckily,
we have somebody in our life

that recorded it, and I was able
to listen to it back. And I'm

like, okay, I didn't make an ass
out of myself. That's good. I I

covered all the things that I
thought were important to say,

but the main message I wanted to
get to the people who were there

that day was that Dad loved his
fans, and he recognized that

that relationship was the whole
reason why he was who he was.

And so I I mainly just stood up
there and said, you know, on

behalf of the children, thank
you, David Allenco fans, for

loving our dad and not being you
know allowing him to freely

express himself in all the
different ways in which he did,

and that just we just really
appreciated the fact that they

loved on him and embraced him
and they didn't you know he was

allowed to be himself through it
all. He

needed that you know he needed
he needed a lot of healing in

his life. Well, he came

up. I mean, he had a hard.

I mean, he had about as abusive
and traumatic of a childhood as

someone can have. Oh, he did.
Yeah,

he really did. And I got to tell
you, when I met him, I met him

in 1982, and because I was on
the radio in Nashville, and at

the time he wasn't getting a lot
of airplay on country stations,

especially in in town. And I was
playing his stuff all the time.

In fact, they let me remember

what songs at that time were
out.

I remember clearly there was. In
fact, I played album stuff.

Yeah, I played the hosted up.
Share, share, share. What did

you do? I played Lost by on off
Compass Point.

Okay, that's a great album.

Yeah, it was. I also played. I
think I snuck in Sudden Death

off Spectrum Seven. Really, on
Country Was that a three

a.m. thing or what?

Oh yeah, yeah. I actually, but
it was really funny when I met

him. I met him at Spence Manor
as he was staying in town. He

was recording, and a songwriter
introduced us. And I could tell

he really at first didn't want
me hanging around. You know,

he's dad

didn't.

No, he because he didn't know
who I was. He didn't know

anything, and I I looked kind of
rough back in those days because

I was

well. You look rough now. Yeah,
I do. What's different? Yeah,

well, actually, this is

cleaner than what I used to do.
Wow! Okay, but anyway, once I

was introduced to him, he
brightened up. He said, "Oh, he

said, "Buzz Rabin was telling me
about you. He said, "You're

playing my effing music, and I
said, "Yes, I am. And so he

said, "You know, come on up, and
we hung out and heard some new

songs. I think he sang "Whiskey,
Whiskey, Take My Mind" before it

came out. Nice. And I was just I
was in heaven, man. And and he

even treated us to a steak
dinner that night. Oh, nice.

Yeah. That's awesome. And then
he gave Zach Van Arsdale 500

bucks.

See, these are the stories, man.
I'm doing worse than he

is. These are the stories that
make my

heart happy.

But yeah, your dad wanted to
help Zach out because Zach had

some songs for him, and he said,
"Zach, those songs just-they're

not me. But he said, "I'll give
you $500 to help you. And I

thought, "Man, what a great guy!
That's

awesome.

Yeah,

that's awesome. So I

saw a side of him that many
didn't.

Yeah, you know, I started radio
1978 in high school. You're not

old enough.

Yeah, I am, and playing and
playing a lot of the of his.

They were singles, but you know
the divers do it deeper. Well, I

got in trouble for that one. I
know you did, Jack Daniels, if

you please. I mean, you know,
some of the stuff that you know

weren't colossal hits for him at
the time,

right?

But I just thought he had such a
cool, unique perspective on on

in his songs, and just a kind of
a twisted eye that I liked. Oh,

me too. Now, Shelly, I'm sure
you were around, you know, to

witness the before and the after
of the ride for your dad in his

career, I mean, what what was
that like to see things just

kind of explode? And that you
know, with Mona Lisa lost her

smile and and those other big
hits. I mean, what what was it

like being out on the road and
witnessing just his career

explode?

Yeah, so I went on the road with
Dad in 1991, 90, and so I had

graduated high school. I had
written him a letter telling

him, you know, who I was, and I
wanted to reconnect with him.

And so I got to go on the road
with him. Jody was pregnant with

Carson. You kids were on the
road. Carla, my older sister,

was on the road. Deborah Ann, my
older older sister, would come

in. Meet, but it was crazy
because the first show we did

was in Austin at a at a very
well known club that is now

escaping my brain, and he had
all of us with our microphones

just at the end of the stage,
just in a straight line, like

like the Opry, and I just
remember looking out over the

and not being able to see the
end because all it's standing

room only, and I can't see the
end, so I don't know where it

ends. Right. And the first three
rows were all the people I went

to high school with, or all the
people I went to school with.

Right. That like probably didn't
believe that I was really his

daughter because he never showed
himself when I was growing up.

So it was just surreal. And then
to have them sing the songs

back, like you know that I just
had goosebumps. I got off the

stage that day and I looked at
him and said, "Yeah, I think I

want to do this now. Because
originally I was going to be an

actress. I was going to go to
New York. I was going to try to

do the whole Broadway thing, and
I had my plan. And he was like,

"Just come on the road with me
for two weeks. And if you

absolutely love it, then you're
with me. And if you don't love

it, then you go on with your
plan. And that first show, I got

that that high of performing in
front of a live audience and

that energy that happens, and I
was just like, "Oh, I think I've

changed my mind. So yeah, I
mean, it's surreal to to watch

people treat them with so much
admiration, and they're

starstruck, and you're you're
proud, but at the same time,

it's kind of a a little bit of
an out of body experience. It's

like, am I really witnessing
this? You know, these people

that are that are fanning all
over dad because he's my dad.

It's a different perspective,
right? So I wasn't with him

probably when the radio stuff
started happening. He was with

Jody at that time, so I got to
listen to his songs on the

radio. But it it was definitely
at a distance. Yeah, you

probably do. You have any
memories of being on the road

when there were two semis and a
limo, and you know, like there

was like eight vehicles on a
carnival. I mean, it was like a

carnival showed up in Government
Town. I mean, I've seen the

pictures, and I'm just like,
this looks insane. Do you

remember? Do you have memory of
that?

Was Dad broke again at some
point? Because I remember

traveling in like a van as a
very young child, and that was

rough. But then we did
eventually get to a bus again.

Well, he went broke

from having all that carnival
stuff, because I always

wondered, because I thought, you
know, he's not getting a lot of

play on the radio, but man, this
guy-I mean, you know, other

country acts would show up;
they'd have maybe a bus or two.

This dude comes; he's got three
busses, semi trucks everywhere.

There's like, or the

Rolling Stones in town. Yeah, I
mean, that's kind of the way it

was.

And but you know it was smart of
him because it was almost like a

PT Barnum, you know something
big's coming to

town.

Yeah, there there was a short
period of time where there was a

van, then there I think there
was an RV, and then ultimately I

think yeah there was a bus and a
band bus. Yeah, you know that

kind of seemed to be and that
was my era.

Mine was a bus, a van, and then
like a it almost looks like a

U-Haul moving truck, but you
know so to to haul the equipment

in. Yeah, that was my era as
well. Yeah, he ripped out the

middle part of the bus to make
bunk beds so that me and Carla

could be with you guys, and then
he ripped out one of the chairs

in the front so that he could
have a crib for Carson. Yeah, he

really did love having his
family and us children on the

road with him. Wow,

that has to be nice.

Yeah,

really. In fact, I loved a
picture I saw of him. I think

he's riding a bicycle, and I
think your sister Cheyenne's in

the picture, and Carson's in
there too.

Yeah, that was backstage at a
show, and and yeah, I mean, once

my parents divorced, most of the
time we got to spend with Dad

was just we would go visit him
at shows and try to get in a

little time before the show,
maybe after the show, and you

know it was more limited. But
yeah, that was a a moment when

we went to go visit and he had a
bike and yeah he was on the

water and there's a big parking
lot and yeah.

But your mother needs to get
some recognition here, Jody,

because she did everything while
she was with me. She ran the fan

club. She she wanted she wanted
to keep it going.

We keep making jokes that we're
going to get her back on it.

Well, see, that's why you guys
need to go out on the road play,

and you can have her out there.
Yeah, I

mean, I think I think everyone
can agree. My mom's awesome.

She's the best. She's the
greatest. She's the whole reason

that

I got to be with Dad. I mean, I
I give her full credit because

she was she had you young kids.
It was definitely all about

family, and so when I sent my
letter, it was during the time

when Jody and him were married,
and it was all about family, and

so I was I was welcomed with
open arms and a full heart, and

and I didn't have to prove
myself, and I never felt like I

I was the odd man out. I mean, I
was welcomed as if I had always

been there. Yeah, and I I
totally every time I get a

chance to speak well, it's like
I give Jody all the credit, you

know, because I don't think if
he was married to her, I don't.

Think I would have had that. I
wouldn't have had a different

experience if one at all.

Right. Okay. Thinking

this like, you know, after my
dad passing, my mom has opened

her home to, you know, all of my
half siblings. She's there for

the fans, and now our new half
sibling. Yes. Who most women

would not be able to digest this
or handle this, but basically,

my dad got another woman
pregnant while my mom was

pregnant with me.

Yeah,

and now we have Josh. Now we're
now we have Josh in our life at

this age and stage in life, and
you know, my mom has welcomed

him and his family. You know,
and so he's awesome. Him and his

wife and their

children are just wonderful, and
we've spent we spent time with

them at the funeral. Yeah, we're
spending time with them for

Fourth of July. In September,
we're going to be spending time

with them again, maybe even for
New Year's. I mean, it's crazy

because it's almost like he's
always been a part of the

family. She's giving him a hard
time. He's giving her a hard

time.

He fits in. He

fits in. He just fits right in,
and and that's how hilarious and

Jack is. Yeah, Jody is like, oh,
you you are related to my

children, and so therefore
you're related to me, and and

welcome to my home. And it's
awesome. Yeah, and that's and

and she should be really good.
She's gorgeous. Yeah, she is

absolutely stunning. She's a
stunning woman, but she's

actually beautiful on the inside
too. And she comes

from a good family. I have, I
have a great family, extended

family in Michigan, great aunts,
uncles, a slew of cousins, and

you know, that's.

So you had asked how it was to
be raised with a famous father,

and I guess I would say we had
the most normal life you could

possibly have, but it's probably
thanks to our mothers. My mother

made sure I had a pretty normal
upbringing, and I think Jody did

the same for you kids. I mean,
when you guys were on the road,

she still tried to make it fun.
She still tried to make it as

normal as possible. You know,
there wasn't any peacocking or

showboating. Yeah, when she was
on stage with Dad, she had the

keyboard and she played her
parts and she sang her songs.

But again, she's not, she's not
trying to steal the spotlight

from him. This is she didn't

want to do it. She didn't want
to do it. I know Dad wanted her

to, but

yeah,

he seemed to do that a lot
because I remember your brother.

You know, he told him that the
story I heard that he told him,

he he said, "Have you been
practicing your guitar? I

heard you. Yeah, I mean, I think
that was just dad. He, I think

dad wanted to put on a show. I
think that he thought that

family brought an element to the
show, especially during that

phase in his life when he was
trying to, you know, make it as

a a country family artist type
man. I think that I think that

we, you know, he felt like it
worked for his image. I think it

did.

Yeah, I

think it did because I saw a big
change in people that didn't.

Yeah, care

for his older image, and when
you know, and he

had us, he had us. I mean, he
had me on stage and on talk to

you as a little baby, you know,
and just you know, it's like

anything. And we

would do live shows, and they
would bring they would bring the

kids out. Yeah, you know, he.
You had to be comfortable with

being in the spotlight.

Yeah,

because you were going to be in
the spotlight. Right. Yeah. You

know, we

didn't have a choice.

But it wasn't like you were like
kicking and screaming

begrudgingly going. You were
like, I mean, okay, cool. Where

do I look? It's just what we
did.

You know. Yeah.

Yeah. It's second nature.

Well, I got to ask you, Tanya,
what got you into creating

Goodbye Girls? Your your yeah.

So I kind of revealed a little
bit earlier. You know, I met my

friend Kim in college. We were
in economics class. I was at

MTSU at that time, and we were.
She was dating a guy who was in

a band. She ended up. I ended up
going to a show, or not even a

show. I ended up meeting up with
her and one of the guys that was

in the band. His name was
Dwayne. We met that night. I

think we ended up being together
for about three years after

that. And yeah, he. We were just
one thing I did while I was in

college to help supplement
income, and my mom had, she used

to take us thrifting, take us to
Goodwills and stuff like that.

And my mom is a she's a
professional seamstress, and so

she just taught me a lot about
fabrics and well-made clothes

and quality things to look for.
And so I kind of created this

eye, and I would resell things
on. I would go thrift and resell

things on eBay, and that was a
way that I waited tables too.

But I that was another way that
I supported myself through

college was just reselling. And
my friend Kim turned out we had

the same passion for that. So
then when we were dating guys in

the same band and both living in
Nashville, and we were going to

their shows, and we would just
go third, and we had accumulated

all this cool kind of stage wear
type stuff, and we would just

dress our friends and for photo
shoots and whatever and cool

stuff. And basically, my friend
Kim she found a commercial space

that was so tiny, it's about the
size of a closet, but it was

only $300 a month. So if we
split it, it was going to be

one. 50 a month, and we got it.
And we were only open on

Saturdays in the beginning. And
so again, kind of like the music

thing, it was just something
that everything in my life is

just something that organically,
naturally happened. And I was

still working two other
part-time jobs when I opened my

shop, and we were. But yeah,
then we just one thing led to

another. And then actually,
after about four years, she she

got a dream job and moved to
California, and she you know was

generous and gracious enough to
let me keep going with the shop,

and so then I became the sole
owner, and so I've just had it

ever since. And yeah, how many
years now? I think 16 and a half

years. I started it when I was
23 and it's that's

that's amazing. I mean that you
know in this day and time to be

able to last in retail 16 years.
That's my volume. COVID. Yeah,

I've

kept my overhead low. Lana Del
Rey helped me out in COVID. I

will say that she she I reached
out to her and she made a post

for me that sent me a lot of
customers and a lot of online

orders, Lana. But yeah, I've.
It's like any small business,

and it's and we're currently in
in an economy that's hard on

small businesses, and you'll
hear that a lot. And and and I'm

no different. My shop's no
different, but I keep my

overhead low, and I've kind of
learned how to how to go with

the flow. And she has a lot of

stuff in her space, though she's
she's utilized the the room very

well. So it's not just like one
single rack all the way around

the room. She's got stuff on the
wall. I mean, you know, if it's

not nailed down, it's for sale.
And there's a lot. And there's a

there's a boho vibe. There's a
country vibe. She's got everyday

retail fashion, but then she's
also got vintage like cowboy

boots and really cool, you know,
like star-studded jackets, and

you know, like Lady Gaga's
fashion person took one of

Jody's outfits and bought it,
and then did this big public

thing, and so Tanya got to do
this side by side of like here's

my mom in this outfit and oh
here's Lady Gaga, I mean like

you've had some really cool
things happen with your store

and I always

say it's the little shop that
could. It is the little shop

that could and it just keeps
giving it just giving yeah and

goodbye

be by and yeah so the the

band that the guys had their
most popular song, the one that

seemed everyone liked, was
called Goodbye Girls B Y E.

Yeah. So when we started this
shop, and and we were always

saying, look at this goodbye.
You know, that was something we

were always saying. So then we
just said Goodbye Girls, and

yeah. See,

I think that's a great name. I
just love. And do you have a

website for? Yeah, we

have a website. Goodbye, girls.
Oh, goodbye girlsnashville.com

and. and yeah, we're in the Five
Points Alley shops. Where it's

you know we I'm like people are
gonna look it up. I don't have

any set hours. We're kind of in
this like weird phase where I'm

like it's just kind of like
yeah, I've had the shop for a

long time, and it's a little
more like we're just there when

we can be there, which is pretty
much every day. But I just I

can't do the Google thing
anymore. I did that for 16

years, and I'm I'm momentarily
just kind of needing to be able

to be more flexible. But if you
need to see

her, she'll open the the shop
and she'll let you in. Yes, like

if you if you see something
online and you're like, hey, I

wanna I wanna try that on in
person. Yeah, I mean she's

flexible. Like, and

I-I mean, I've had people that
have shop have, you know, I

think that's the thing is like
the shop became, it's like a

little community in itself, and
I've just met so many people,

made so many connections, and
just really have a love and care

for my customers and everyone
that walks through my door. So

it's been a cool way to connect
with people.

See, I never have really
understood these Nashville

thing, but I'm getting to where
I really understand it more now.

It's a really cool little area.
It

is, yeah, it is

very cool. And that also, I got
to clear up something here too

that a lot of people think just
because it's Tanya Montana music

that this this book that's been
re-released, this is David Allen

Coe that you're doing it, but
it's not you.

Yeah, no, it's not. I mean, I
have helped with getting it back

in print and getting it on
Amazon. My husband and his

brother actually helped as well,
and it's been all of us have

been you know in talks about it,
and but no, I did not. You know,

it's a book that's written by my
dad. It does feature a lot of my

newsletters that my mom wrote
when she was part of the fan

club. But yeah, basically, I
just helped get it back in print

because it seemed like after
dad's passing, that book was a

little bit of a harder one to
get a hold of, and it was just

starting to go. You know, on
eBay, it was. I mean? Some were

listed for $2,000 Some were
listed for 400 300 500 and so I

just thought, you know, when my
husband's brother had had a

little experience with getting a
book on Amazon, and so he kind

of knew and understood how to do
that process, and so we scanned

all 330 something pages and. Got
it uploaded and it's on there

and yeah, but it is as it is
right now. It's just truly just

a reprint of Dad's original book
and it's basically like a

scrapbook. And I remember when
he was working on it, he was

super proud of it. And it's just
it's a great book for our

family. I feel like because it's
just such a it just represents

such a a great time,

and it's not like he sat in a
room and somebody dictated what

he had to say. Right, he
physically put the pages

together, and it's his
handwriting talking about his

thoughts. And you know, there's
a page. It only goes up until a

certain moment, right? Because
at some point, you have to print

it. Right. So I'm sure you know
the story actually does

continue, but Jody has the
publishing for that book and

different CDs. Do you happen to
know what the tattoo is? So

yeah,

so when my parents were married
and my dad wasn't, he had been I

guess I don't know if he was
dropped or just wasn't on a

major label. They basically
started the publishing company

Tanny Montana Music, named after
me, and in when they were

getting a divorce, and my
parents had an amicable divorce.

They decided on all the money
stuff together, and all the you

know all that stuff, and it was
all amicable. And yeah, you know

the the fan club and Tanny
Montana Music. I mean, my mom

had put her heart and soul and
hard work into all that stuff,

and my dad let it stay with her
for her and for us kids. And so

there are four albums. She has
1990 songs for sale.

Great record.

She has "Living on the Edge,
"Granny's Offer Rocker, and

"Standing Too Close to the
Flame. And then

Granny's Offer Rocker. And I'm
Tyler, and I are on the cover

of that line,

standing too close to the flame.
Is Jody reaching for the lamp on

the fireplace man? Yeah, with an
old

picture of bold publicity.

I'm getting chills talking. Back
in Dave Coe,

and then Dave Coe, and then you
know she, and so then the the

black book, and then she
actually has the book Psychopath

as well, and so

that was his novel, was it not?
Yes, that was yeah.

Yes, and I haven't actually.
We're I haven't read it. Yeah, I

haven't read it either. So we're
we need to read it, and we need

to decide whether or not we're
gonna get that one back out

there too. See,

I have all of his books except
for that one, and this is David

Allen Co. I don't have them. Oh
well, we've

re-released it so that you don't
have to pay $500 or $1,000 to go

out. welcome. I don't have that.
But you know, a lot of people

have spun a narrative that Tanya
is getting money for songs that

were written, or that she's
getting money for books, or that

she wrote books. And it's like,
no, it's Tanya Montana

Publishing that's owned by Jody.
I mean, yeah. I mean, it's

just-it's crazy. Don't get me
wrong. Oh, I've

heard. Yeah.

I think it's sad that us
children don't. You know, I

think my dad. We. You know. I
had always. I can't imagine that

my dad wouldn't have wanted to
take care of us kids, right? You

know, in any way that he could.
But no, I mean, as far as I

know, none of us kids make.
We're not. We don't. We don't

make any money from his songs,
from his royalties. His, you

know, there's no money. I mean,
you know, I've I've worked my

whole life. You know, I mean, I
worked three jobs while putting

myself through college, and you
know, I mean, I've worked every

day. I was babysitting before I
could even legally get a job,

you know. I mean, I. The

narrative is that you know we're
silver spoon kids, and that

we're now reaping the benefits
from Dad's death, and that we're

getting all of this stuff. We
own no merchandise. All of his

jackets, any anything that's
David Alinko related belongs to

the estate. We're not part of
the estate. We've actually been

boldly claimed to. If you read
the will, we have been excluded

from everything. I mean, that
was the very first sentence in

the will that we've been
excluded from everything, and

that broke our hearts too
because we've been told our

whole lives that Dad loved us
and that he the family is

important. Like he actually has
written that in his own words.

You know, family is everything.
Be good to them, and so that's

that's been something that we've
had to struggle with is the fact

that the way things have turned
out has not necessarily been the

way that Dad may or may not have
wanted it. And but that's okay.

We are a family, and we love
each other, and we're going to

keep going down this road
together as a family. But we

also want to, we want to come
onto the radio and tell you guys

this because so many things are
happening online, and you know,

15 comments later, we're the
devil, and it's like we didn't

even know. And so, one of the
reasons why we were so thankful

that you invited us here is so
that we can talk about the

things that are important to us.
But also, the message to the

Dave Aldenco fans is that you
know we know how much Dad loved

them, and we loved him just as
much, if not more. And we're

devastated that things are
playing out the way they are,

and we don't know what the
future holds for the name of

David Allen Coe. We don't know
what his name's going to get put

on. We don't know what's going
to get released. We have no

power over anything, and so
that's scary and it's sad.

Yeah, it is. And but I've got to
tell you guys, I don't know how

much it means to you, but you
have my admiration. You have for

a long time. Well, I have. I've
I've really admired how you guys

have handled your lives, and I
think you've done it with glass.

I've also defended you guys a
lot. We appreciate that. And in

fact, one was somebody said that
was quoted that you and you got

royalties from Stand By Your
Man, and I'm thinking, how could

you get royalties of Stand By
Your Man? He didn't write that.

Well, and he

recorded it in '81. I was born
in '86, way before you were

born. That was set at the
funeral in front of everyone. I

don't know why. My yeah, I don't
know. Is

this really the first time
you've been able to kind of go

on record and talk about these
things? Yes,

I've talked about this. I've
tried to post about things on my

social media before, but I mean,
yeah, I've never not at

that nauseum like this. Kind of
going at length. Interesting.

Well, that's why I wanted to
have you guys on. Thank you. One

big reason was I just wanted to
talk about your lives because

I've always, like I said,
admired you, and I admire Tyler.

I mean, I loved his podcast.
Yeah, you know, cocaine and

rhinestones. Yeah, what a great
podcast!

Appreciate that. I think people.
I think there's some people that

want to erase us and and act as
if we never existed, and so it

means a lot for people to, you
know. Well, that ain't gonna

happen as long as to show
support. Well, as long as

Johnny B's around, that's not
gonna happen. So you guys will

always, and anytime you want to
come back, please do. Well, I'm

gonna come back because you have
a slip and slide that you guys

created right outside. Right
off. It is. I don't know if

that's like a half a mile long
down a hill, but it looks fun.

You guys should probably have an
ambulance standing by because it

also looks like you're going to
have some massive traction as

you're going down. Well, if Jay
and I if

Jay and I go down, that probably
I go down

it. It looks like your your
Fourth of July birthday, happy

birthday by the way, is going to
be incredible. Well,

thank you for that. But once
again, thank you for. And if

there's, how can people check
you guys out? Is there anything

you want to promote? I mean,

truly, I'm not very active with
music. I'm not playing any

shows. I, but you know, I do.
We've got to change that. Maybe,

but I do have a band camp that
still has vinyl of my first

album, Silver Bullet, and then
CDs of my second album Hydro

Emotion.

And I have a band camp also of
the second album A Girl Like Me.

And how you can get a hold of
us, I guess, or how you can

continue to follow our story is
that each child has a Facebook

page. Some of us are more active
than others. Some of us don't

really want to be in the
spotlight, and so we we have

massive respect for that. Others
want to figure out a way to

monetize and and possibly have a
career with that, and so we're

just cheerleading each other.
Those that want to be visible,

we're pushing it on our own
website to help push the

narrative for them, and then
those that want to be quiet and

and more reserved, then we put
little hearts on their faces

when we post, just out of
respect for them. And I mean,

it's just really, it's a it's a
fluid thing at this moment.

We're just the main thing is is
that we're all together. We've

got a new brother we didn't have
before, and we are just loving

on each other, and we're helping
each other navigate the loss of

dad because each one of us is
going to be processing it

different. Some of you know some
of us process it in different

times, and just the important
thing is just to be there for

each other when when when you
fall apart.

Well, you guys will be in our
thoughts and prayers constantly,

and absolutely thank you for
what you're doing, and thank

you, and just well, keep just
just keep showing support

for us, and we'll keep keep
doing it.

Well, just just keep that family
unit together. That that is

important. It's important. It
really is. You guys are doing a

great job. Thank you. And tell
your mother she's doing a great

job.

I will,

and she has my. I respect her. I
don't know her. I've talked to

her one time, but what a sweet
woman! And and she has been

quite a warrior.

Yes.

So thanks again for coming on
our podcast, Jay. Tell the folks

how they can check us out, and
please do.

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